Obama is a Fraud! He wants to put you in Jail now for something he opposed as a Canidate!
We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!
This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!
And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!
From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:
“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”
Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?
Here is a link to the video with a great critic by Obama himself on why the Individual Mandates are BAD:
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-was-against-compulsory-health.html#comment-form
These individual mandates are a huge tax increase on the young and healthy!
Why are we blowing this golden opportunity to stop Obamacare in its tracks?
I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.
Monday, September 28, 2009
Obama is a Flip-Flopping Liar - Now trying to force us to by Government Regulated Health Insurance!
The conservative print media has had several great features and is leading the charge against the Obamacare bill but he has spoken out directly against these Individual Mandates - I just wish the rest of the conservative media would get a clue and catch on soon before its too late....
We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!
This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!
And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!
From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:
“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”
Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?
Why are we blowing this golden opportunity to stop Obamacare in its tracks?
I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.
We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!
This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!
And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!
From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:
“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”
Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?
Why are we blowing this golden opportunity to stop Obamacare in its tracks?
I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.
Snowe Job? Maine RINO votes to keep the Unconstitutional Individual Mandate!
I very much appreciate all Conservative’s and other dedicated American’s continued focus and analysis on what is happening in the so-called Health Care reform debate.
Unfortunately, all of us who oppose Obamacare may be too late politically to stop this from happen unless the public can be alerted to what is going on right now.
A big event took place yesterday that went just about unnoticed by the all in the media save for the alarm over jail time brought out by Senator Ensign (good catch by him!)…..
The Individual Mandate provisions were kept in the Bacus Bill by the Senate Finance Committee on a near party line vote which makes some form of Obamacare phoney “compromise” highly likely now…
And unfortunately, it was a R who broke ranks with her party….guess who?
Well, the cat is out of the bag - Senator Snowe voted to keep the individual mandate so its very likely that she and the blue dogs will sell us out on the Bacus bill or Wyden-Bennett fake compromises.....
http://townhall.com/blog/g/a14a2e37-3a56-4ad5-a5dc-b85d08474004
Contrary to popular opinion in the media, the Individual Mandate, not the so-called public option is the key to stopping Obamcare in its tracks. Stop the Individual Mandate and the whole bill will unravel for lack of funding and mandatory participation in the scheme!
Her is what happened yesterday….
Senator Bunning offered an Amendment in the Finance committee today to kill the Individual Mandate in the Bacus bill - it failed by 14-9 vote - a bad result for stopping Obamacare.....
All R’s except Snowe voted Against the Individual Mandate…..
All D’s voted for it....of course…..
This is NOT a good result......If Snowe voted for it, then she is likely to vote for a Fake "compromise" bill with mandates.....and will vote for closure with D.....
Well, the true supporters of some version of Obamacare cant hide now - they will push the defacto takeover with the Individual Mandate!
This is a very dangerous period because Nationalization will still occur even without an overt government run insurance plan like this "public option" provision everyone keeps fixating on - Wyden/Bennett and the Bacus bill are prime examples of this.
Here are the core elements what will be contained in the “health care reform compromise” after the so-called “public option” is in all likelihood dropped:
(a) Federal Regulation aka HEALTH CZAR/DEATH PANELS
(b) Employer/Individual Mandates aka NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE
(c) Government Subsidies aka MIDDLE CLASS MEDICAL WELFARE
With the Federal Government setting the rules, forcing everyone to participate, and is paying the bills for most of the middle class through subsidies how is this anything other than Nationalization?
Here is a great link from a CATO study by Michael Cannon about how the takeover will work without a public option or COOP:
http://www.cato.org/people/michael-cannon
People need to be up in arms about this - they need to Flood Senator Snowe's email, etc to get her to change this vote NOW!
Someone in the GOP Senate caucus also needs to talk some sense into Senator Snowe immediately too!
Also, the so-called "blue dogs" need to be targeted too - they need to know we are on to their support for a de facto takeover.....
We are in bad shape I fear now - Rahm E is likely right and we are on track to pass this so-called "bi-partisan compromise" - but at least we know what is going on now and can mount a reaction....
The conservative print media has had several great features and is leading the charge against the Obamacare bill but he has spoken out directly against these Individual Mandates - I just wish the rest of the conservative media would get a clue and catch on soon before its too late....
We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!
This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!
And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!
From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:
“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”
Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?
Why are we blowing this golden opportunity to stop Obamacare in its tracks?
I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.
Unfortunately, all of us who oppose Obamacare may be too late politically to stop this from happen unless the public can be alerted to what is going on right now.
A big event took place yesterday that went just about unnoticed by the all in the media save for the alarm over jail time brought out by Senator Ensign (good catch by him!)…..
The Individual Mandate provisions were kept in the Bacus Bill by the Senate Finance Committee on a near party line vote which makes some form of Obamacare phoney “compromise” highly likely now…
And unfortunately, it was a R who broke ranks with her party….guess who?
Well, the cat is out of the bag - Senator Snowe voted to keep the individual mandate so its very likely that she and the blue dogs will sell us out on the Bacus bill or Wyden-Bennett fake compromises.....
http://townhall.com/blog/g/a14a2e37-3a56-4ad5-a5dc-b85d08474004
Contrary to popular opinion in the media, the Individual Mandate, not the so-called public option is the key to stopping Obamcare in its tracks. Stop the Individual Mandate and the whole bill will unravel for lack of funding and mandatory participation in the scheme!
Her is what happened yesterday….
Senator Bunning offered an Amendment in the Finance committee today to kill the Individual Mandate in the Bacus bill - it failed by 14-9 vote - a bad result for stopping Obamacare.....
All R’s except Snowe voted Against the Individual Mandate…..
All D’s voted for it....of course…..
This is NOT a good result......If Snowe voted for it, then she is likely to vote for a Fake "compromise" bill with mandates.....and will vote for closure with D.....
Well, the true supporters of some version of Obamacare cant hide now - they will push the defacto takeover with the Individual Mandate!
This is a very dangerous period because Nationalization will still occur even without an overt government run insurance plan like this "public option" provision everyone keeps fixating on - Wyden/Bennett and the Bacus bill are prime examples of this.
Here are the core elements what will be contained in the “health care reform compromise” after the so-called “public option” is in all likelihood dropped:
(a) Federal Regulation aka HEALTH CZAR/DEATH PANELS
(b) Employer/Individual Mandates aka NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE
(c) Government Subsidies aka MIDDLE CLASS MEDICAL WELFARE
With the Federal Government setting the rules, forcing everyone to participate, and is paying the bills for most of the middle class through subsidies how is this anything other than Nationalization?
Here is a great link from a CATO study by Michael Cannon about how the takeover will work without a public option or COOP:
http://www.cato.org/people/michael-cannon
People need to be up in arms about this - they need to Flood Senator Snowe's email, etc to get her to change this vote NOW!
Someone in the GOP Senate caucus also needs to talk some sense into Senator Snowe immediately too!
Also, the so-called "blue dogs" need to be targeted too - they need to know we are on to their support for a de facto takeover.....
We are in bad shape I fear now - Rahm E is likely right and we are on track to pass this so-called "bi-partisan compromise" - but at least we know what is going on now and can mount a reaction....
The conservative print media has had several great features and is leading the charge against the Obamacare bill but he has spoken out directly against these Individual Mandates - I just wish the rest of the conservative media would get a clue and catch on soon before its too late....
We should be attacking these Individual Mandates daily on radio and TV TOO! Conservatives - please continue to do your utmost to alert the conservative media and the GOP Senators and Representatives about what is going on here with Obamacare!
This is the "bridge over" or foot in the water they need to get to fully socialized medicine!
And the Individual Mandate should be an easy target for conservatives and the GOP to attack since Obama has done a huge 180 from his campaign promises!
From the mouth of then Candidate Obama:
“If you look at auto insurance, in California there’s mandatory auto insurance,” Obama explained. “Twenty-five percent of the folks don’t have it. The reason is because they can’t afford it. So John and I, we’re not that different in this sense; that I’m committed to starting the process. Everybody who wants it can buy it and it’s affordable. If we have some gaps remaining, we will work on that. You take it from the opposite direction, but you’re still going to have some folks who aren’t insured under your plan, John, because some of them will simply not be able to afford to buy the coverage they’re offered.”
Can we see some flip-flop or liar adds please? The debate where he said this is on Video – why isn’t this on Fox, commercials, etc and juxtaposed to his current statements where he literally gushes over in his praise for using government force to compel you to buy a private product against your will?
Why are we blowing this golden opportunity to stop Obamacare in its tracks?
I hope we can pick up the pace here - a 1000 year reign of socialized medicine would not be good for anyone's health.
Friday, September 25, 2009
Oppose Individual Mandates NOW!
This is a very dangerous period because Nationalization will still occur even without an overt government run insurance plan like this "public option" provision everyone keeps fixating on - everything else contained in the plan is just as dangerous and is not being discussed in any kind of a targeted manner.
Here are the core elements what will be contained in the “health care reform compromise” after the so-called “public option” is in all likelihood dropped; both the Bacus and Wyden-Bennett bill contain all of these items:
(a) Federal Regulation aka HEALTH CZAR/DEATH PANELS/RATIONING
(b) Employer/Individual Mandates aka NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE
(c) Government Subsidies aka MIDDLE CLASS MEDICAL WELFARE
With the Federal Government setting the rules, forcing everyone to participate, and is paying the bills for most of the middle class through subsidies how is this anything other than Nationalization?
And it’s clearly a government take-over of health care – only the names are changed to make us feel better about the arrangement. Since the government will be controlling the market and setting the terms, health insurance companies will essentially quasi-governmental agencies that get to administer the plan. They will be controlled in the same manner as GM or CITIGROUP and will be private in name only.
The common thread in all of the so-called "compromise" or bi-partisan plans is the Individual Mandate to force people to buy government dictated health insurance. This needs to be the focus for conservatives now!
Clearly, the Individual Mandate is a gross violation of our liberty and an Unconstitutional Tax – in essence the government is giving no choice in how you get to take care of your own body. These Mandates force everyone in the country into insurance plans that are designed by the Federal Government thus giving them control over everyone's choices. Mandates also fund the whole plan since they force young and healthy citizens or citizens who prefer to self insure to buy expensive policies that really don’t need and won’t likely use and employers to pay huge taxes (yes, in a lot of cases health insurance make no economic sense and nobody should be forced to buy a product or service they don’t need.) This is a stealth tax on the young and healthy by the government. It allows the politicians to continue to shift the costs of the bankrupt Medicare/Medicaid program by continuing the practice of allowing providers to overcharge private consumers/insurance to make up for those programs payment shortfalls (this will get worse too as there are 500 billion in Medicare cuts in the plan too).
Finally, the Mandates are the carrot that keeps the insurance industry on board with the scheme since they give them millions and millions of new customers – it is basically another big industry bailout (big Health Insurance companies are in great financial distress since they lost heavily in last year’s market collapse and have a disproportionate number of aging “baby-boomer” customers who are getting older and sicker thus more costly – 80 million of their 135 million customers are between the ages of 50-65 years old).
I would strongly advocate to conservatives in the Media/GOP elected officials that they stress three very simple messages:
(1) The Individual Mandates need to be opposed and need to be the center piece of the opposition message - they are the most political unpopular feature of the Obamacare plan and they hold the whole scheme. Simply put, there is no government takeover without Mandates.
(2) Health Insurance Companies need to be called out for receiving Bailout money and a Monopoly Market. Health Insurance execs are politically unpopular and this would put the GOP/Opponents on the side of the people and not the special interests. We conservatives have a responsibility to defend the concept of insurance and free markets but not the current government and special interest distorted market.
(3) Obamacare is a corrupt bargain that benefits big government, powerful Washington politicians, big union, and big companies/industry at the expense (once again) of the taxpayer, small business, the elderly, and the young.
Particularly, Republican leaders in the U.S. Senate need to understand this as many of the “compromise” plans being discussed contain all of these elements. They need to be forced to go on record as not only opposing the “government option” but these Employer/Individual Mandates too before they fall into the trap of thinking they are acceptable and not government run health care. The “free rider” argument makes little sense too as an excuse for conservatives to fall for supporting the Individual Mandate - we should not accept this excuse from our elected representative. Basically, the total amount of uncompensated care by the uninsured equates to about 1% of total health care spending in this country. This is a very small cost to pay to keep our own individual liberty and choices as a free people.
Individual Mandates to buy private insurance sound like a “free market” solution and “individual responsibility” but in this context they are not – they are simply a front for a government run system. Again, the common thread in every liberal/statist health care bill is the Individual Mandate. To see it in action, look no further then how these Mandates in MA work to give government full control and to skyrocket costs. Many conservatives can be easily fooled by this faux “private” front (Mitt Romney was) – there needs to be united conservative opposition to Mandates now!
Here are the core elements what will be contained in the “health care reform compromise” after the so-called “public option” is in all likelihood dropped; both the Bacus and Wyden-Bennett bill contain all of these items:
(a) Federal Regulation aka HEALTH CZAR/DEATH PANELS/RATIONING
(b) Employer/Individual Mandates aka NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE
(c) Government Subsidies aka MIDDLE CLASS MEDICAL WELFARE
With the Federal Government setting the rules, forcing everyone to participate, and is paying the bills for most of the middle class through subsidies how is this anything other than Nationalization?
And it’s clearly a government take-over of health care – only the names are changed to make us feel better about the arrangement. Since the government will be controlling the market and setting the terms, health insurance companies will essentially quasi-governmental agencies that get to administer the plan. They will be controlled in the same manner as GM or CITIGROUP and will be private in name only.
The common thread in all of the so-called "compromise" or bi-partisan plans is the Individual Mandate to force people to buy government dictated health insurance. This needs to be the focus for conservatives now!
Clearly, the Individual Mandate is a gross violation of our liberty and an Unconstitutional Tax – in essence the government is giving no choice in how you get to take care of your own body. These Mandates force everyone in the country into insurance plans that are designed by the Federal Government thus giving them control over everyone's choices. Mandates also fund the whole plan since they force young and healthy citizens or citizens who prefer to self insure to buy expensive policies that really don’t need and won’t likely use and employers to pay huge taxes (yes, in a lot of cases health insurance make no economic sense and nobody should be forced to buy a product or service they don’t need.) This is a stealth tax on the young and healthy by the government. It allows the politicians to continue to shift the costs of the bankrupt Medicare/Medicaid program by continuing the practice of allowing providers to overcharge private consumers/insurance to make up for those programs payment shortfalls (this will get worse too as there are 500 billion in Medicare cuts in the plan too).
Finally, the Mandates are the carrot that keeps the insurance industry on board with the scheme since they give them millions and millions of new customers – it is basically another big industry bailout (big Health Insurance companies are in great financial distress since they lost heavily in last year’s market collapse and have a disproportionate number of aging “baby-boomer” customers who are getting older and sicker thus more costly – 80 million of their 135 million customers are between the ages of 50-65 years old).
I would strongly advocate to conservatives in the Media/GOP elected officials that they stress three very simple messages:
(1) The Individual Mandates need to be opposed and need to be the center piece of the opposition message - they are the most political unpopular feature of the Obamacare plan and they hold the whole scheme. Simply put, there is no government takeover without Mandates.
(2) Health Insurance Companies need to be called out for receiving Bailout money and a Monopoly Market. Health Insurance execs are politically unpopular and this would put the GOP/Opponents on the side of the people and not the special interests. We conservatives have a responsibility to defend the concept of insurance and free markets but not the current government and special interest distorted market.
(3) Obamacare is a corrupt bargain that benefits big government, powerful Washington politicians, big union, and big companies/industry at the expense (once again) of the taxpayer, small business, the elderly, and the young.
Particularly, Republican leaders in the U.S. Senate need to understand this as many of the “compromise” plans being discussed contain all of these elements. They need to be forced to go on record as not only opposing the “government option” but these Employer/Individual Mandates too before they fall into the trap of thinking they are acceptable and not government run health care. The “free rider” argument makes little sense too as an excuse for conservatives to fall for supporting the Individual Mandate - we should not accept this excuse from our elected representative. Basically, the total amount of uncompensated care by the uninsured equates to about 1% of total health care spending in this country. This is a very small cost to pay to keep our own individual liberty and choices as a free people.
Individual Mandates to buy private insurance sound like a “free market” solution and “individual responsibility” but in this context they are not – they are simply a front for a government run system. Again, the common thread in every liberal/statist health care bill is the Individual Mandate. To see it in action, look no further then how these Mandates in MA work to give government full control and to skyrocket costs. Many conservatives can be easily fooled by this faux “private” front (Mitt Romney was) – there needs to be united conservative opposition to Mandates now!
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